Sunday, December 13, 2009

The rationalism of theist




For the point of clarification, I'm going to say rational means "reasonable" and that a rational/reasonable person uses logic.

The only real reason I think that atheists may be more rational than theists is because theists start with the answers to their questions and then try to work backward. I mean, as we all know and agree, logic is a practice based on manipulating premises - and unless the premises are contradictory, logic has no way of commenting on the premises veracity. Consider the skeptic, who argues that since his dreams seem real to himself the entire world might be one big dream. Is this man irrational? By modern convention people would say yes, but those nay-sayers would only say yes because they believe that to be rational is to be right. I believe that (if) this skeptic has sufficiently proved his case plausible, so rejecting his world view (without refuting his logic) would be wrong.

Similarly, theists start with the premise that god exist and find coherent truth - the things around the theist all combine to prove his original point. Yes, often we have to look at the world events through the lense "god wanted it to happen", but even that is just another premise.

And consider the atheist for comparison. It is true that the atheist may be the truely logical man, who questions all premises, and finds nihilism or whatever the hell it is atheists find after their process of disregarding every premise as invalid. Are these people, though, right in their dismissal of the theists? Isn't that the exact opposite of logic? If a theory could be true, that is, if a theory is conditionally truth, then disregarding it for no reason other than "well I don't believe it" is wrong (and certainly would equate atheists and theists). The unicorn example proves this - what if someone thought a magical invisible unicorn ran the show? If such a world view was plausible, then the person who believed it is being rational in believing in the teachings.

Seriously, though, the moral of this post is simple (this is more personal to the atheists in that thread): stop being so pretentious. You think you're enlightened because you somehow judge your world view to be more likely than a theist's? It isn't. I'm not suggesting you convert to theism, I'm suggesting you recognize the beauty in all logic, and recognize that your rejection of the theist as retarded marks the "crime" you accuse the theists of.

Tl;dr: seriously, theism makes sense, and basing logic off premises is not inherently illogical. 

1 comment:

  1. I love when theists say this to atheists: "There's no difference between you and I. I don't think that I'm better than you, and in fact, I might even make more mistakes than you. The only difference between you and I is that I have salvation:... Now who's being pretentious?

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